An especial welcome to you if you are a new visitor to my blog after finding my business card on your seat at the Brighton Centre, when you came back from lunch. I’m sorry I missed you! If I was able to give you my card personally: nice to speak with you again!
I hope you had a better journey home than we did. We got into our car at 5.00pm yesterday electing to miss the last speaker in favour of an early start home. It took us an hour to get out of Brighton. If you left at the very end of the bootcamp in your car, Brighton must have been gridlocked with all the extra traffic. When we got on the A23: slow traffic, M23? slower traffic, M25: 35 minutes delay, M1 junction 12(ish): all lanes closed for over an hour due to what appeared to be a vehicle fire. Finally arrived home in Leeds at 1.00a.m this morning. (A very short night’s sleep).
Anyone else up for petitioning Andrew to hold the next bootcamp further North? Harrogate’s got a good conference centre!
Can anyone fill me in on what I missed from the last speaker? I heard a rumour that it was going to be Ted Nicholas but I’ve not had that confirmed. I would have loved to have seen him live, having just watched him on dvd up till now. If he gave any resources (web addresses etc.) I’d really appreciate someone passing them on to me via the comments section below.
In fact, any comments at all on the Bootcamp are welcomed. Anyone like to give their thoughts on the Bootcamp as a whole? how about nominations (and reasons) for the best speaker? Or be controversial: how about worst speaker? or (despite the information overload) the most important unanswered question? The floor is yours… you decide… This is your chance to make history: be one of the first contributors to my blog!
Go on, you know you want to… 
Comments 66
Hello Everyone,
This is actually David again, here.
Since I posted that last entry to my blog, I realised that some of you may be a bit wary (through inexperience) of writing a comment on my blog. You may have privacy or other concerns, so I’m writing this just to show that the name you give when leaving a comment can be a nickname you give yourself just for this blog if you wish. You DON’T have to use your full or real name.
Let me also reassure you that you are asked to give your e-mail address just to ensure you are a bona fide contributor and so I can control any attempt to spam or otherwise misuse my site. Your e-mail address will not appear with your comment.
Finally, if you have a website, feel free to mention it in your comment. I have no problem with this. All I would ask is that you avoid any out and out “selling” of your site on my blog. That would go against the spirit of my site and I would delete such comments.
Anyway, I hope that reassures you and encourages you to contribute. You can tell by looking round my blog that it has only been up and running a few months, so if you’ve never used a blog before, you can work out that I’m only a few weeks ahead of you on this. So add a comment now, feel free to use my blog as a learning experience, and through your comments you have the opportunity to influence the direction my blog takes.
I look forward to your comments. Now, over to you…
Posted 01 Jul 2008 at 9:58 am ¶Hi David,
Posted 02 Jul 2008 at 11:59 am ¶I had recently started studying Andrew Reynolds’ Cash on Demand System, which I was (and still am) very excited about. My husband was very sceptical about it as I have a history of getting passionate about various business ideas and then getting nowhere. Nevertheless, I convinced him to come to the Bootcamp with me and he’s now hooked! We’ve practically given up TV, spending every spare minute on the pc and reading Andrew’s modules and other relevant material. I thought the bootcamp was fantastic. My favourite speakers were Andrew (of course!) and Pat Mesiti (this guy had me crying one minute, laughing the next). Looking forward to recieving my 10 modules from Andrew and Pat’s kit also (that’s my next 6 months sorted!). Getting ourselves thoroughly educated at the moment, and hoping to get going with the marketing by the end of the year. Will keep you posted. Best wishes to everyone.
Frances
Hello Frances,
Thank you for starting the ball rolling with your comments. I can’t tell you just how much better I feel knowing that I have a reader! I know there are more of you out there, so please join in.
As you can probably tell, this is still quite a young blog but (already!) the majority of members attended the Brighton Bootcamp. So if more people choose to contribute perhaps we can build up a worthwhile forum of opinions and ideas and benefit from each others experiences.
So thank you again, Frances, for your contribution and good luck with your new business: THIS IS THE ONE; and yes, keep us posted with your progress.
To keep Frances’ thread going, I’ll just share that I got the most out of Armand Morin’s session. I’m a bit “techy” myself (not a geek you understand, just a bit “techy”
) and I enjoyed his content. I did wonder, though, whether it might be too “advanced”, if that’s the right word, for some of the audience.
Anyone like to comment on that?
Posted 02 Jul 2008 at 6:55 pm ¶Firstly I was only in a support role at Brighton. I had no idea what to expect. Do I understand computers, websites marketing etc no. Did I enjoy the experience? Surprisingly yes!
Posted 03 Jul 2008 at 2:58 pm ¶I now understand (well almost) what hubby is trying to achieve and move forward to financial stability.
The venue was good although I had to gain relief for my bottom on Saturday late pm by escaping for a walk around Brighton! That was my only absence, not bad for someone in ‘support only’ mode.
The speakers were all interesting and informative in their own right. Tom Hua had to be my favourite, what a genuine character. I also found the E bay speakers of interest, an opening there maybe, a loft clearance ,who knows.
Finally, I think every attendee should ‘FEEL PROUD’ for their achievement at weekend. Without attendees that HUGE cheque would not have gone to the MAKE A WISH charity .Good luck to all.
Hi David,many thanks for your business card,I am in the process of signing up. I am still recovering from ‘information overload’,what an incredible three days. I am on to my third module with Cash-on-Demand from Andrew,by far the best and informative speaker. I must say that I gained a lot of info. from Armand Morin and Tom Hua,wonderful speakers. Knowing Brighton I opted for the train,£35 return from Norwich with no worries about the drive and parking costs. Yes I would go for Harrogate,having spent my schooling years near Skipton,a beautiful setting.
Posted 04 Jul 2008 at 1:09 pm ¶Just to pick up on a common theme of the posts by Frances and “a wife”: the importance of involving your partner in what you do. When you take on a new challenge, such as a new business, the whole world can seem against you. You need someone on your side so you don’t feel alone. So involve your partner: let them not only share the “vision” of your dream but also encourage them to make it a reality with you.
Who was it who said, “happiness is not a destination, but a journey”? Enjoy sharing the happiness and excitement with your partner, as you take the journey on your new business venture together.
And Keith, thank you for signing up!
A shrewd move, travelling to Brighton by train. I looked at the rail option for my journey from Leeds, but rejected it as I didn’t fancy getting back into Leeds early on Monday morning! If only I’d known…
Posted 05 Jul 2008 at 2:11 pm ¶Hi David
Posted 07 Jul 2008 at 2:21 pm ¶Thank you for the contact business card, and for the 20 ebooks that I received from you.
Bootcamp best speaker for me was Tom Hua, and also Armand Morin. Tom showed me the potential of ebooks and viral marketing, and I look forward to getting stuck into this business.
The final speaker was Ted Nicolas, a very inspiring man. His was mainly personal develoment stuff, and the need to be in the right emotional state before commencing writing a sales letter.
I look forward to receiving the next five ebooks from you.
By the way, do you send out any documentation regarding what we can do with these eproducts?
By the way again, I studied at Leeds Polytechnic 1971-5. I love West Yorks, and visit it fairly regularly.
Thank you.
Hello David,
thank you for all the recent correspondence, I did attent the Boot Camp and it was a terrific event and I learnt a lot. Although some of it was over powering and it makes it a bit hard to know which is the best way to start a home business which is what I am attempting to do. All of the presentations were excellent on all three days. I am a student of Andrew’s amd Tim Lowes’ and they are excellent. I did not purchase any other material as I feel it can confuse me, I am also a very loyal type of individual and tend to stick with the first people who shared the idea of a home business. The only comment I would say is that when you are going into business for the first time and been still involved in a regular day to day job it is very difficult.
Firstly you have to learn how to set up a business and establish a business like mind set and then figure out what type of product you would like to promote share and sell etc.
It would be nice if one could find information on how t set up a business and run it professionally. It is often hard to sell the idea to ones wife to get her to buy into the idea of an extra income working at home in the evening and week ends etc. It is true for sure we are programmed whilst we are growing up in our homes, attending our local shcools and further education down the road.
I was delighted to have had the opportunity to be able to atend the Boot Camp and I would recommend people to attend next years event.
Good future and a Good life to everyone.
Regards
Joe
Please do not publish my e-mail address.
Posted 07 Jul 2008 at 2:27 pm ¶hi david thanks for your card would have been nice to have met you always like to put a name to the face. me and my husband willy both went to bash and we did enjoy it it was pack with a lot of information i am still going through my notes taking out the key points. i started andrew reynolds cash on demand modules last month and i am waiting for the next one, I was tempted to buy the 10 modules at the seminar then i opted against it.we were interested in all the speakers but you can only do so much. once you have chosen a something you were interested in you were rush to get in on it its was a shame that you were not given more time to take it all in would have been nice to have time to speak to the speakers, but it was a very good seminar and it was nice to see some of the people at the make a wish foundation . didnt we do well load of funds for those people .
Posted 07 Jul 2008 at 2:29 pm ¶hi david. I was interested to read in your blog that Ted Nichols was mentioned . i also am very interested in any info that he has made available. I was unable to attend this bootcamp but I am certainly interested in attending next years.
I have found “bootcamps” a valuable font of resouces, information and also a fountain of motivation, which I certainly need at times.
Good luck to everyone. and good fortune.
Posted 07 Jul 2008 at 3:52 pm ¶Hi David and all,
Posted 07 Jul 2008 at 8:07 pm ¶My first bootcamp- signed up on a complete whim and was tempted by the donation to charity. It was fascinating, informative and overwhelming. Glad I attended. Thanks for leaving your card. All speakers were motivational to the point of information overload. However, it was a great experience and I really liked Andrew and Daryl Grant, so am following their course. I met some interesting ‘new recruits’ and we are going to keep in touch. No real negatives except personally I was pretty tired by the last day.
Hi David
Yes this was my 3rd bootcamp and I enjoyed this one too. I left early on the Sunday but travelled by train so I had a bit of a doze on the train into London, the first tube was a bit busy but fine after that and it took 2 hours door to door, I dread to think how long it would have taken by car especially having to go round the m25 and the dartford crossing!!
But have been very impressed with the free downloads David excellent.
regards
Posted 08 Jul 2008 at 8:32 am ¶Jean
Went to my first bootcamp ever, and found it very informative, picking up some good tips. Was i the only one, or was every speaker using the cash on demand system perfectly in trying to sell their packages to us(pessimistic, sceptic!). Looking forward to putting everything into practise, and finally making some money!
Posted 08 Jul 2008 at 11:32 am ¶Hello David,
here is another comment to add to your Blog.
Ted Nicholas’s presentation was brilliant and he got up and had everyone dancing to music and singing. He is holding a training seminar himself on the weekend of the first of August in a hotel near Heathrow Airport.
This informaion I am sharing with those people who may have missed Ted’s Presentation.
He also had a live work book during his presentation where he performed an exercise for everyone to fill in the blank spots on each page. It was the old fashioned way of learning but extremely effective.
He is a terrific motivator and his methods of writing a sales letter and doing copy writing is brilliant.
Over all the Boot Camp was brilliant.
Good health and happiness to everyone.
Regards
Posted 08 Jul 2008 at 2:45 pm ¶Joe
Hi David
Posted 08 Jul 2008 at 3:04 pm ¶Brighton was the first event of this kind I have attended and, once I got over Pat shouting at me for 90 mins, I really enjoyed it. The hard sell got irritating but I guess it’s to be expected. Being a total newcomer I really enjoyed Simon Coulson and Andrew who I felt were a little more accessible than some of the slick American “showmen”. I’m sure after I am a little more experienced in the world of Internet marketing I would appreciate the likes of Arnand a lot more. Thought Tom Hua was very entertaining too.
Thanks for the free downloads.
Cheers
cd
Hi David
Posted 09 Jul 2008 at 12:53 pm ¶This bootcamp is the first that my parner and i have ever attended
and, i must say here and now it won’t be the last. We both had our eyes well and truly opened, and got a taste of what one could earn given a little
attitude and application to these ideas that we where shown.Thanks for the free ebooks (first 20) and i look forward to the chance to receive 5more, submitting this to you.
Thank you David.
David,thank you for dropping your card.
Like your other replies what an enjoyable bootcamp.
The info overload was quite intense hoping to be able to digest some and looking forward to the dvd of the event.
You mentioned how sorry that you missed ted.
our other writer mentioned he had a book we filled in like a little task book. called :little known wealth secrets. which lists personal affirmations etc i picked a spare copy did you want me to post it
john boy
Posted 09 Jul 2008 at 1:45 pm ¶Hello Everyone,
WOW!!! Thank you all for submitting comments to this section – there’s been a terrific amount of activity since I was last here. I’m sure all of the other readers have enjoyed your contributions to this section – keep them coming!
With that in mind, a special mention to JOE in acknowledgement of his being the first to write more than one comment on this blog.
A lot of other things I’d like to comment on (in no particular order of importance and if I forget anything I’ll do another comment later).
Re the best speaker, results so far:
Andrew Reynolds 4,
Tom Hua 4,
Ted Nicholas 3 (but did I skew those results by particularly asking about him?),
Armand Morin 2,
Andrew and Daryll Grant 1,
Simon Coulson 1.
No surprise at Andrew Reynolds being at the top as we all attended at his invitation!
Tom Hua being up there too reflects well on his knowledge and how he is able to impart it to his audience (all the practice he gets at his World Internet Summits is obviously paying off!)
Armand Morin too gets plenty of practice at speaking at such events, no surprise at his inclusion.
Honourable mentions to Andrew and Daryll Grant and Simon Coulson: all relative newcomers to the speaking circuit (and they would probably admit not the most naturally gifted speakers), but obviously the quality of the information they gave was appreciated.
No one else gets a mention! Now that IS interesting. I wonder if anyone will get a sympathy vote, once these interim results are read?
Sorry, will have to come back with my other thoughts later: “Dinner is served!”
Posted 09 Jul 2008 at 7:02 pm ¶My belated thanks to Hazlett, Joe and Johnboy for giving me an insight into Ted Nicholas’ presentation; I really would have liked to have been there.
Thanks too, Johnboy, for the offer of the book… yes please! My business address is on the e-mails I send (and I must add it to the “About me and this site” page on this blog – one more item for the “must do” list!). If you’ll enclose your address and “bill” I’ll gladly refund you the cost of postage and packing.
Hazlett, to pick up on a couple of points in your comment:
1) I’ve no plans at this moment to do anything specifically for promotion of the e-books. My aim was to provide all my readers with good quality information, which they could also use as products in any way they felt was compatible with their own business. So you can give them away or sell them, either individually or as one huge bundle (as I did) or otherwise use them as you think fit.
You could, for example, copy them all on to a cd and you have a physical product. Give it a snazzy title, add a label and cd cover and you’re away. I’d recommend, though, that you somehow make your own unique product by bundling some, not necessarily all, of the e-books with other compatible material. Time for a brainstorming session, perhaps, to consider your options.
2) I reckon we must have attended Leeds Poly at the same time. How weird is that? I think I was there 1971-72 and you can deduce from that that my BSc Economics course and I did not gel! Every cloud has a silver lining, though, my pinball and table football skills improved no end!
And to Jean: I’m glad you’ve been impressed with the downloads. E-books generally fall into 2 camps: free and of debatable quality, or of debatable quality with a price tag attached! These are amongst the best free e-books I have seen and having the rights to give them away or sell them makes them pretty unique.
All the best
David
Posted 10 Jul 2008 at 11:15 am ¶Hi David,
Posted 10 Jul 2008 at 10:40 pm ¶This was my first bootcamp – certainly not my last. I am a Cash on Demand student of about 18 months ! The bootcamp consolidated a lot of the information I have read and has finally spurred me on to do something about it. I am just building a website – dont really know what I am doing but found Google will help you build one for free.
Thank you for the e-books. I have printed out about 4 of them which immediately caught my eye and will get round to the others eventually.
Re Ted Nicholas – I was so impressed with his talk that I went to the Entrepreneurs Channel, listened to his talk and have ordered his package, a good deal at £67 with dvds and workbook from Wembley plus his Magic Words e-book and How to Turn Words Into Money.
Thanks again, Jill.
Jill,
Thank you for the tip about Ted Nicholas. I shall certainly check him out on the Entrepreneurs Channel.
David
Posted 11 Jul 2008 at 10:55 am ¶Hi David,
I guess you must have skipped lunch on the day you left your card on my seat at Brighton Boot Camp. I am curious David, did you get to every seat in the venue? I am guessing not every seat was vacant like mine and you must have been sucked into some discussions with the ones that were occupied, impinging on the time available. So I am grateful you did get to my seat, even though we missed each other.
As a result, I am writing my first blog, or reply to a blog, ever. As I am now in my sixties, the very thought that thousand of people who read your blog David, or maybe millions around the globe will read this too is giving me a “stiffy!” How cool is that?
Now being over sixty has it’s atvantages. At the time I got my my invite to Andrews Boot Camp, the fuel drivers srtike was in it’s first weekend and threatening to spill over into the next one. I had visions of getting the beamer to Brighton and then getting holed up in an expesive hotel waiting for the strike to settle and empty filling stations. Doh!
I had no hesitaion in booking my train to Brighton. The advantage being I already had a Senior Railcard and got one third discount off the fare. Immeadiatly I handed over my plastic, the strike was settled and they went back to work. But inretrospect, I have no regrets doing it that way. I saved a bunch of money and traffic stress.
Plenty of taxis at Brighton Train Station to take me to my hotel. Taxi dropped me off at my pre-booked hotel and sped off, back to the station, I presume. Anyway I presented myself at reception and this is where things went tits up. They had no reservation in my name. (No, not Fang silly).
Like alot of folks I guess, I booked my hotel via the internet. This hotel I had already Googled and I could see that it’s proximity to the venue would be about a ten to fifteen minute walk. Cool me thinks.
So as I am being told they have no reservation in my name and no vacancies, (figures), for a split second an image of me flaking out under
the pier on the beach flashed in front of my minds eye! Doh! to the power of two!
Long story-short. a call was placed to one of their “sister” hotels, a taxi was called and I was whisked off to a more up-scale hotel and was charged the original quote for the first hotel. Every silver lining has it’s cloud, right? This hotel was a good half hour walk along Bighton’s sea front into or against the relentless wind, depending whether I was coming or going. Was it worth it? You bet!
Has anybody been to a windier town than Brighton?
This was my second boot camp. Each time a different location. Who knows where the next one will be held? I am located way down the South West Peninsular, I would suggest Bristol for the next one. Sits very conveniently on the M4 & M5. Good train services from N.S.E & W. Even has an airport. So there must be a suitable venue there too, right?
As this is my first venture into blog land, I think I may have rambled on long enough. Next time, (Wot next time, I hear you cry) if anybody is remotely interested, I might write about what I have learnt from my two boot camps and maybe even have a website by then to quietly mention.
Thanks for your indulgence, David.
Posted 11 Jul 2008 at 4:39 pm ¶Hello Fang,
What a debut! I think now you have discovered blogs you may have found your forte! Thank you for rambling (your word, not mine) as long as you did – a thoroughly entertaining piece of writing.
More please!
David
PS No I didn’t manage to visit every seat with a business card.
When I googled the “Brighton Centre” prior to the event and researched the actual hall, it told me it was capable of holding 680 people!
Consequently, I ordered 1000 business cards (always useful to have a few spare, thought I).
Come Friday morning, got a bit of a shock when we walked into the venue!
Handed out 500 cards on Saturday and a similar number at Sunday lunchtime.
I chose the seats very scientifically: the seat had to remain horizontal when unoccupied. Generally speaking, the seats in the “gods” tilted back cinema-style and the cards wouldn’t stay on! You learn a lot at bootcamps!
Posted 11 Jul 2008 at 7:18 pm ¶My wife and I went to the bootcamp and travelled by train from our home in Harrogate. The journey both ways was very simple and relatively quick.
We left Harrogate just after 2pm Thursday via York, Kings Cross, St Pancras International, where we caught a direct train to Brighton, arriving before 7pm. On the return, we left the bootcamp early, caught a train at abot 5.15 to London Bridge, then on the 7pm train to York and arrived in Harrogate around 10pm.
The bootcamp was overall excellent (we also missed Ted Nicholas). We too were most impressed by Andrew Reynolds. Our main criticisms were related to two main items; the first was the oversell by many of the speakers – trying to sell too much at too high a price rather than keeping it simple; the second was the woeful catering at the Brighton Centre. But overall a very rewarding experience.
Posted 16 Jul 2008 at 2:19 pm ¶Hello Keith,
A fellow Yorkshireman! Glad you had a better trip back to Yorkshire than I did.
You make a good point about the oversell. With the benefit of hindsight, I can see that just about all of the speakers, having presented on their own main topic, then seemed to compete with regard to how many extra bolt-ons they could add to justify a four figure price-tag. So after claiming to be a specialist in one particular area, we are then expected to believe that they are experts in everything else they are trying to sell.
Of the purchasers of the “big bundles”, the cynic in me does wonder just how much of those bundles will actually get used.
Personally, if I need a product or service to do a particular job, say to host my websites, I’ll research that area and pay the cheapest price I can (typical Yorkshireman) to get all the features I need. When I need another product or service, I’ll do the same again – always buying just what I want when I want it.
We saw some expert marketers at Brighton, marketers who didn’t just excel at selling over the internet.
Posted 16 Jul 2008 at 6:01 pm ¶Hi David and all
Thanks for your card and the ebooks. I really enjoyed the bootcamp can’t wait to start making some money. My favourite speakers were Andrew of course and Pat Mesiti what a guy!! Truly inspirational. I too am working through the cash on demand system but only on Module 2 so if anyone has any tips and tricks on future modules these would be greatly recieved. I have just recieved the dvd set of the bootcamp so I can relive it all over again. Thanks once again and good luck to everyone.
Maks
Posted 16 Jul 2008 at 10:30 pm ¶hello david
just read through the comments and decided to add my own, the venue was good but the seats were bum nummingly uncomfortable after 5 minutes, the catering was also inadequate for that amount of people, and harrogate would be a wonderful alternative, as for travelling i am going to make you even more upset i paid £102 return from hull to brighton and back each journey only took 4.5 hours.
the speakers were mostly entertaining as most people have noticed but the hardsell is something we dont need or at least not 30 mins of it each time and yes i agree with you that if you look hard enough on the net you can find most stuff you will need
andrew reynolds was the easiest to relate to and i have since looked at tom hua s stuff also interesting pat masiti reminded me of billy connelly he has a career as a stand up if he ever gets bored with motivational speaking, well ive said my bit for now i did sign up for andrews 1 day fast track thing because he is giving licences and a laptop plus website and a jv so i hope it will provide the kick up the backside i have needed to move me to the next level and i will report back when i have been to the training day
regards
pete
Posted 18 Jul 2008 at 12:38 am ¶Hello Maks and Pete,
First of all, Maks.
Im sorry I’ve not replied before now. My aim is to do more on business building within my blog before too long. Hopefully, that will be useful for you and may stimulate some interesting comments.
I hope the dvds of the Bootcamp prove to be a good investment for you.
Pete,
Point made – I made the wrong decision going down to Brighton by car.
I’ve not previously known of anyone signing up for Andrew’s fast track course, so it would be terrific if you gave us all some feedback (tuition?) afterwards. In the meantime, I hope the kick up the backside works!
David
Posted 18 Jul 2008 at 1:12 pm ¶Hallo everyone!
Posted 19 Jul 2008 at 2:09 am ¶Thanks David for the card and ebooks. I learned a lot from them.
I went to the bootcamp first time and liked the venue and all the speakers.
I am a subscriber of Cash on Demand course (module14). Anybody knows how many modules are there to come?
Last week I got all the five dvds from Andrew Reynolds and then come thousends practical questions like: which mailing list is genuine, how to make a deal with a good fullfilment house. Profesional rebranding is expensive like the one offered by Sounds Good studio but is it really good?
I know one thing after many researches that you can not start on a small budget if you decide to market a product using a direct mail advertising.
It is my personal belive that online marketing is much more suitable for would be enterpreners like many of us. Or is it only me being so confused with this issue.
Best of luck to all.
Hello Maria,
I’m glad you were able to learn a lot from the first 20 e-books. I hope you find the bonus 5 that I’ve just sent you equally as useful.
Some time ago, I opted out of the Cash on Demand course after module 15, as I felt the course was taking me in a direction I didn’t want to go. I won’t tell you what it covers, I’ll let you make up your own mind. I think Andrew mentioned briefly at Brighton that the course was up to (was it 30 something?) and hadn’t he just written another 12? Sorry, Maria, my recollection’s a bit hazy on the detail. Perhaps another reader can clarify?
As for the rest of your comment, it sounds as though you are suffering from the post-bootcamp reality check! I believe that there is a lot of it about at the moment.
The concept of Cash on Demand is straightforward, as, indeed, is online marketing, but the complications start with all the numerous practical and technical issues. I don’t think you are the only one confused with this, Maria. It’s something I’m working on now. I’m aiming to help you with this through my blog. So keep visiting and watch your inbox for my e-mail newsletters.
David
Posted 19 Jul 2008 at 9:19 am ¶Dave,
Found your blog after searching for info on the Andy Reynolds Boot Camp (Brighton).
Looking for a full list of speakers (could anyone oblige) – which brings me to the point of this entry – Consider content targeted to those who did not attend, this could also foster more in-depth conversation on what did or did not sink in.
Those who did attend could broaden their understanding of topic / knowledge introduced on the day (ok! – week end) – some interesting threads there and what valuable content.
Having been on a couple of these ‘info overload’ seminars I have some empathy with some of those that have left previous comments.
I might suggest is that one ‘stand back’ and consider the ‘whole experience ‘ noting the marketing techniques that these guys are applying; very powerful, very useful.
Here is something that should be of interest to those wishing to learn more about Internet Marketing – FREE from Ed Dale – Starting 1st August, for the 4th year. The, acclaimed, 30 Day Challenge.
Go here to learn more:
http://www.ThirtyDayChallenge.com/challenge/3053
It’s FREE, it’s Professional, so it’s worth a try.
It starts on 1st August, but they are in pre-season (as they call it) to prepare every one. Last years Daily Course on-line too.
P.S. Your networking method hopefully will reap many new members to your list – An aside: the last one of these AR did, in Bournemouth, had 3000+ attendees – how many at this one do you reckon?
Posted 21 Jul 2008 at 8:52 am ¶Hello Richard,
Thanks for joining us; I think you may be the first Non-Bootcamp-Attending contributor. It’s reassuring to know that the search engines are now recognising my blog.
The speakers at the Bootcamp were:
Pat Mesiti (twice)
Andrew Reynolds (twice)
Dan Kennedy
Bill Glazer
Paul Hartunian
Matt and Amanda Clarkson
Armand Morin
Andrew and Daryll Grant
Paul Elliott
Simon Coulson
Tom Hua
Ted Nicholas
Not sure on the exact numbers attending, but greater than 3000 and less than 4000, I believe.
Thank you for the constructive suggestions for developing the direction of my blog. Duly noted.
David
Posted 21 Jul 2008 at 12:12 pm ¶David,
Thanks for that – Not the ‘usual suspects’ I had expected.
What did you think of Dan Kennedy – Would have really liked to hear what he had to say,
Posted 21 Jul 2008 at 8:23 pm ¶Hello Richard,
Thanks for coming back.
Dan Kennedy is a very, very, very accomplished speaker; if he had a note or a prompt, I didn’t spot it. No hesitation in his delivery, he was in complete command of his presentation (not all speakers at the bootcamp could boast that).
Have reviewed my notes of his speech, but they don’t really do justice to his message. His theme was “Renegade Millionaires” – they have key differences from us ordinary mortals and they act differently. Examples were given of this in business and what we should be doing if we are to be like them: basically modelling ourselves on their behaviour… start of sales pitch.
With apologies to Dan – just as well I wasn’t giving the speech!
Posted 22 Jul 2008 at 7:07 pm ¶Hi David
Thanks for the business card you left on my seat at the brighton conference and the free ebooks – all good stuff.
Thoroughly enjoyed the conference – good to meet a variety of people at different stages in their business. Seats could have been far better and catering seemed fairly useless – we learn’t this fairly quickly and found sandwiches and drinks down the road for Saturday and Sunday.
The speakers were all very good – some were a bit too entertaining almost (Pat) but on balance it all worked well to keep you interested. If i was to pick out my best ones then I would say Andrew was informative and practical,the ebook Australians were very interesting as were the ebay couple. Simon Coulson was the one I could relate to the best as he explained things in such a way that I sat there listening to him thinking I could do that , that could be me. He explained the process of ideas and products in a good simplistic way. Finally i think the Bill Glazer copywriting presentation was brilliant – he gave away so much practical advice – a really useful and informative presentation. The only downside , as mentioned by one or two others , was the half hour sales pitch each time – became very tiresome and do they really need to give these massive packages away with lists of lists of things being added and added – when are you ever going to get the time to look at it after all isn’t the premise behind the Andrew Reynolds business idea that of simplicity.
Anyway – it was a good event and I learnt something from every speaker -I also learnt to take a cushion with me next time !
Steve R from Southampton
Posted 23 Jul 2008 at 10:38 pm ¶Hello Steve,
Thanks for your thoughts on the bootcamp.
I’m surprised that no one else has commented on Bill Glazer’s presentation before now. As it’s now 4 weeks since the bootcamp, I wonder if the passage of time is changing our assessment of the speakers? whether the quality of the information is now coming to the fore after some of the “gloss” has worn off?
One thing is certain: the lasting impression made by the seats!
Posted 24 Jul 2008 at 9:34 am ¶Hi David and all
I have been watching the dvd’s of the bootcamp. It is amazing although you think you have scribbled ever important web address tip etc down for future reference, it is not until you watch again that you notice what you have missed. In my opinion money well spent. I have started rebranding the 5 dvd’s Andrew sent me and hope to launch my 4th company soon. David any tips etc on web site building and hosting?
Speak soon
Maks
Posted 24 Jul 2008 at 8:36 pm ¶Hello again, Maks
Well done on having started rebranding.
I intended to do some posts on hosting and website building (in that order) before too long. It looks like I better bring them forward!
I’ve got a bit of a busy weekend planned, so if you can give me a couple of days to string a few words together, I promise I’ll have at least one article on the blog by Monday evening.
David
Posted 25 Jul 2008 at 5:48 pm ¶Thanks for “you can be so many people”. To think the “anon” was created as a joke and it now has a campaign for President is fantastic. Thanks for that. Very Funny.
Re Bootcamp. Ted Nicholas I first heard of 30+ years ago, but along with other names, some evangelical such as Norman Vincent Peale – “How to win friends and influence people”. Sadly I was too busy with a wife and 4 kids so I never followed up on him. A missed opportunity.
Pat Metisi I found to be an exhilirating speaker. He lit the place up with his enthusiasm and the reality checks he built into his presentation. He came up the hard way and one can only respect all that he has achieved and what he continues to do for others. My kind of hero.
But he was selling change the Mind Set. whereas Tom Hua was brilliant also but he had something really tangible to take away- products service – back ups etc. They were both fantastic in their own subject areas.
I ordered a guest seat for my son who is a wizz on computers and has got a degree in business studies and languages and has done marketing.
Well you know Dads and sons don’t always get on and he would not come. Thought it was all hot air etc. There’s none so blind as those who wont see.
So as requested I returned the guest ticket as they were in allegedly in short supply according to the letter from Bookingline Plc and they quite naturally did not want any unfilled places that could be sold again .
BUT on the letter or ticket it said NO REFUNDS. What a cheek.
You want my co-operation to help you fill the hall and resell the ticket.
OK NO PROBLEM, but they will not make a simple credit for an unused ticket which they have asked to be returned, and they have decided beforehand that it is OK to keep £50 of my money without any reference to me, or my authority. Sounds akin to theft to me.
So I endorsed the letter and sent it back with the unused ticket and said that as a 71 years old pensioner I could not afford to just lose £50 like that and that if I made any money form my activities I would willingly give the Make a Wish Charity ten (10) times that amount. —-I never got a reply, —and as you know when you book they have all your phone details etc.
Now I hate injustice of any kind, and this just smacked of improper practice. The bootcamp was excellent. I enjoyed it immensely. Full credit to the organisers. But this little improper action needs correcting for the future as it took the gloss of the occasion for me. I came by plane from S/west France. I had 4 nights hotel as well plus meals, so I did not need the arrogance of this improper action. Lets hope they change that bit. and anyway I do not think any charity would want any money that was not truly and freely given.
Posted 26 Jul 2008 at 3:57 pm ¶Hello Des,
Thank you for such a good lengthy comment.
I’m glad you enjoyed the video I sent by email. I only came across it recently, but it seemed to me that it could be taken at a number of levels:
1) a joke
2) inspiration “you can be so many people…”
3) a good example of how quickly “viral” messages can spread over the internet.
Disturbing news about the “no refund” policy, Des. To my mind, just because Andrew Reynolds has linked the bootcamp to the charity by asking for a donation if you want a ticket to the event, implies a price for the event and so a refund policy should apply.
Furthermore, to ask for you to return the ticket in the event of it no longer being required so that it can be “sold” again, smacks of profiteering.
No one seeing the video of “Make a Wish” would begrudge those children anything. But I wonder if the charity itself was aware of the “no refund” policy. I suspect not – I’m sure the last thing they want from members of the public is ill will!
David
Posted 29 Jul 2008 at 11:57 am ¶In spite of their arrogant method I just take the long view — that is as you say — the children benefit, and I am glad I made the effort to attend what turned out to be a wonderfully inspiring week end. So overall it was worth the extra £50.
I hope they Bookingline spot the error and change it sometime. I feel sure the charity would not be aware.
Posted 29 Jul 2008 at 9:29 pm ¶David
I am about a month late in posting on this topic. I misplaced and rediscovered your card.
Nice to read many of the attendees’ comments.
I wonder if any of them had any follow up support from AR.
I just received module 14 and I was curious to see that you stopped after module 15.
Yes, the ‘Make a Wish’ clinched it for me in deciding to attend the bootcamp.
The experts always make it sound so easy, but like some of the others, I have come across a few practical difficulties.
By the way, I am a fellow Yorkshireman too, based at Huddersfield
Posted 24 Aug 2008 at 8:50 pm ¶Nandu
Hello Nandu,
Another Yorkshireman! At this rate I shall have to be careful that I don’t alienate the rest of my readership – they could start to feel in a minority!
Seriously, there are plenty of non-Yorkshire readers out there, and every single one of you is very welcome.
Just to clarify: I stopped subscribing to Cash on Demand when I did for business reasons. I felt that what Andrew was covering at that time was something I was never likely to use. So having already got what I needed from Cash on Demand, I decided to cancel and re-direct my monthly investment into another training resource.
I’m sure with any monthly subscription service people are joining and leaving all the time. I’m also sure that there are many people out there who are well beyond Module 15 and still enjoying it. Good luck to them!
David
Posted 25 Aug 2008 at 1:07 pm ¶Dave,
Are you the Dave Preston doing 30DC ?
Can only assume not, as no posts here about it!
Don’t know what 30DC is – Not doing it then!
Posted 27 Aug 2008 at 7:50 am ¶Hello Richard,
No, it’s not me doing the 30 day challenge. I’ve got too many other things going on.
I hope it’s proving worthwhile for you, though.
David
Posted 29 Aug 2008 at 3:38 pm ¶Hi Everyone, I am just wondering how you all go along with the rebranding of your DVDs, any of you got web sites, if so I would love to see them to see how you are all getting on.
The information at the Bootcamp was quality, I hope you have all made good use of it and not just left the notes on shelves and in draws.
All the best,
Sim
Posted 07 Sep 2008 at 3:28 pm ¶http://www.SimeonTuitt.com
Hello Sim,
I have to admit that my dvds are still in the box, but that’s due to my efforts being concentrated on this blog at the moment.
But it would be good if any of you other readers out there, would pick up on Sim’s comment and let us know of the progress you’ve made. Or, if you’re having problems, maybe other readers may have the answer for you.
David
Posted 09 Sep 2008 at 1:54 pm ¶Hi David, just found your blog again, curious have you started marketing your DVDs since your last post in reply to me? If not, I hope you do not mind the inclusion of this link as it covers rebranding and includes my versions of the rebranded DVDs.
Anyone can have high quality DVDs done for very little money, so if you haven’t rebranded your DVDs or any of the bloggers, I hope they find the video a help and motivator for the kind of quality products they can have out there.
All the best,
Sim
Posted 20 Oct 2008 at 9:23 am ¶Hi David,
Ohpps the link never appeared in post with comments, here is the link your readers of this blog may find useful when rebranding their products.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=77QtnbSzy7s
All the best,
Sim
Posted 20 Oct 2008 at 9:25 am ¶Hi David
I have seen Sim’s web site and his offers on rebranding and mentoring.
However, I wonder if any of the Brighton Bootcamp attendees like me, have had support from Andrew Reynolds in proceeding with the marketing of the products.
I remember a ‘one hour’ consultation being a part of attending, but unfortunately I have misplaced the certificate that allows me to contact AR.
Having met some Bootcamp attendees at the WIS, I realised that those who made any progress did so through their own efforts.
One harsh fact that I have picked up (and perhaps others have too) is that without personal coaching/mentoring, any number of books or modules or products is of little use.
The products will come in handy when each of us ‘cracks the code’ but one can see some remarkable claims and testimonials of sellers having ‘personally’ benefited from the Bootcamp products (and those subsequently released ‘hot’ off the filming), over the last few months!
They have already received ‘unsolicited’ testimonials! One attendee has practically started his own eBay. I brought this to the attention of AR but did not elicit the expected or desired response!
Posted 22 Oct 2008 at 8:10 am ¶Hello Sim and Hello Nandu,
good to hear from both of you again.
Thank you both for revisiting this topic: it IS about time that we compared notes on our progress since Brighton. I have to say my progress with the products has been zilch! -sorry, folks, – I’ve got a blog to produce!
Can’t really offer much by way of comment other than I can’t seem to find my certificate either, Nandu!
What I can do, though, I will. So my next few posts will be about getting traffic (more traffic equals more dvd sets sold) and I’ll also broadcast an email to my list of subscribers inviting them to re-visit this discussion.
David
Posted 24 Oct 2008 at 7:42 pm ¶Hi David, thanks for the reply, shame to hear you have not yet got started with selling your DVDs yet. In all honesty that seems to be common amongst the 4000+ that attended the event as I have seen less than 10 people using google to promote their DVDs.
Some people have rebranded and got cases produced and others are just selling the DVD copied on normal discs, either way they have started.
With Christmas coming up, now is a great time to offer and start promoting the DVDs as people love DVDs at Christmas and with everyone putting on weight over the Chrismas season, great time for readers to get their Fitness DVDs out there.
Above someone said without mentoring you can’t make the most of this business, that is very true, so for those readers that need help, stay tuned to my YouTube channel.
http://uk.youtube.com/user/simeontuitt
I keep updating it with information that can help you get your information publishing businesses off to a FAST START.
The latest video contains details of some software I had produced that gives you an 100% automated business.
Any of you that checked out the CD on rebranding we were given will know its going to set you back £3250 for the gold package to rebrand 5 DVDs! Then if you want to have all your orders fulfilled for you that isn’t available until you have first purchased the gold package as it is by invitation only, well that’s the way I understood it.
The software I have available gives you the same automated set-up from day one without having to invest thousands first.
Once your DVD fulfilment is automated you can spend time on the thing that actually makes the money THE MARKETING.
All the best,
Sim
Posted 24 Oct 2008 at 8:40 pm ¶http://www.SimeonTuitt.com
Hi David, Nandu & Sim,
l have managed to get started, although l am sure l still have a lot to learn, also l have tried Google Adwords without much success, so l am now trying an advert in a magazine as well as trying out a mailing list as soon as l can get one to allow me to buy as l have tried one that AR suggests, but they have so far not allowed me a list. Also l have used my certificate with AR, although it took some weeks before l received a reply and the first reply was to say contact me when you have a sales letter that sells and a website, so l corrected them by informing that l had and then a few weeks later again l got a reply to my questions, although the message was more about let me know when you are selling with your sales letter, which l suppose is fair enough. l am about to amend my current sales letter as although l have had sales with it l think l have a better one which does include some feedback that l have had and so l intend to change it over the next few days. l am trying and the sales letters are definately very important along with the vehicle to drive traffic, also l have started with a Hypnosis CD (which does work) along with the Bootcamp DVDs as free bonuses, also l have looked at Sim stuff which looks interesting, but also very open to any comments or suggestions of anyone else.
Best regards
Posted 26 Oct 2008 at 2:36 pm ¶Tony
Hi, forgot to put web site address http://www.tlpublications.com
Posted 26 Oct 2008 at 8:17 pm ¶Hello Tony
Thank you for your comment and well done! You seem to be one of the few who’ve taken sufficient action to have a product, a sales-letter, a process and sales!
Keep testing and tracking each part of your sales process to constantly improve it. At the same time work on your traffic strategies. If you want some ideas on getting visitors to your site, keep coming back to the blog as I’ve just written the first of a series of articles on this subject. You can go to the first article here:
http://recommendedbydavid.com/2008/10/29/using-your-opt-in-box-to-get-traffic/
What a let-down with regard to AR’s after sales service. Is there anyone out there with anything POSITIVE to say on this subject?
David
Posted 31 Oct 2008 at 5:50 pm ¶Hi David and Tony
Well done to Tony for his significant progress. Tony when you say the Hypnosis CD works, do you mean it does what it claims to do or do you mean it helped your marketing?
If it is any consolation to mere mortals like us, AR’s after sales service is not much better even for his Fast Track VIP clients (even those who went for the ultimate £10,000 package that was promoted at the Brighton Bootcamp).
I say this on good authority. So a lot of us have a lot of products, but ultimately it is entirely up to us to make something out of it.
Tony, what you have done is very innovative, but it saddens me to think that we have to bundle the AR DVDs as ‘Free’ bonuses when they should be the main ones!
Perhaps you have shown us the way!
David, I have something POSITIVE to say! At least we did not spend thousands on the products and only paid for a good cause (Make a Wish!).
I spent on the COD modules and some more DVDs of AR but at least not the £10,000 on the VIP package!
I am sorry for the delayed response to Tony’s post, but am just recovering from a very major operation
Posted 14 Dec 2008 at 4:34 pm ¶Hello Nandu,
Sorry to hear about your op, but very glad to hear that you’re now on the road to recovery – may it be both a speedy and complete one for you.
And, welcome back!
All of us at the bootcamp will be aware of AR’s path to success. I remember that he wanted to escape the “corporate culture” of his previous employer. I get the impression that he’s now more than happy to be at the head of his own corporate machine (with the income and lifestyle that goes with it) but does not want to create the infrastructure to support his customers.
I find it hard to believe that a multi-million pound business loses interest in its customers once they have bought from it, especially when some are paying thousands of pounds
I can’t knock AR for his charitable work, but if he doesn’t start to look after his customers, they WILL get disillusioned and then cracks could well appear in AR’s empire.
I see he’s aiming to go even bigger next year with the bootcamp being held in London’s O2, but over fewer days. At the time of writing this, I don’t think I’ll be attending.
David
Posted 21 Dec 2008 at 10:28 am ¶Thanks David
I am gradually working my way back to normal. I too will not be attending any more of his bootcamps.
You are doing some good work. Wish you all the best with that and a Happy New Year in 2009!
Posted 01 Jan 2009 at 11:12 am ¶Hi
Ive followed AR’s progress over the last 10 years, starting with his 1-trick pony approach to marketing products from Bill Myers. Most of the time I have been very sceptical about his business model – and have then been proved wrong. Whatever envy I have had about his success has been moderated by my recognition that he did what I or anyone else could have done – but didnt.
If he has a fault, my view is that he makes it all sound much easier than it is….. in fact I think he relies on the fact that 99.9% of the Brighton delegates would do little if anything to take advantage of the knowledge and DVDs provided. There were a lot of gullible people in Brighton, who spent a fortune. Even I (who knew what to expect and should have known better) signed up for a very expensive course (Armand Morin) – thank goodness for the 30 day cooling off period which allowed me to sample the course and then cancel with a full refund.
My own view is that it is unrealistic to expect that we can mirror the scale of AR’s success……and that most of us would be satisfied with routinely clearing £50k or £100k a year from the COD model. Yes, £1m+ a year would be nice, but the lifestyle I would be happy with doesnt need that much. Im all for aiming high, but success at a more modest level would still be great and serve as a stepping stone toi the next level.
I can take some comfort that, like me, the significant majority of delegates have not made progress. But I am very dissapointed with myself for not doing more – though my excuses are sure to be better than yours (I bet we will all say that !!!).
I think I will still attend the O2 event – but with a strong padlock on my wallet (I understand that most of the speakers cleared over £1m from product sales – which is why they are so keen to participate). There were some gems and nuggets of gold amongst the spin we heard at Brighton and Im sure that will be repeated at the 2009 event – sorting the wheat from the chaff is one of the skills needed to make a go of Info-marketing. Ill be older and wiser by then, and hopefully will have more tangible experience of the CoD game by then.
Sorry for the ramble – I set out wanting to put AR’s business methods into perspective – too many of us take his claims at face value and believe that his prime aim is to help us – without remembering that first and foremost he is a businessman. He makes his money by selling dreams, just like Branson, Sugar and Gates. He is not out to screw us but at the same time he is not going to spoonfeed us to the extent some might believe….he signposts the way, points out some of the barriers and then it is down to us.
None of this is a defense for poor customer service. Whilst my experience of AR customer care has always been very positive I have not spent £1000′s with him. If I had, and was disssapointed with the outcome I would make sure he knew – but would also make sure I had not over-relied on him.At the end of the day, the buck stops with us.
Keep taking the medicine – but with a pinch of salt to sustain the realism. There is room for all of us….but if you dont mind, please wait until I’m well on the way to being a success before you make the plunge. Have a more productive 2009.
And remember – dont knock it until you try it
Posted 01 Jan 2009 at 11:54 am ¶Hello Nandu,
Thank you for your comment posted on 1st Jan. Apologies for the delay in replying due to my own surgery.
Here’s to good health for both of us!
David
Posted 21 Jan 2009 at 5:08 pm ¶Hello Paul,
Thank you for taking the time to contribute such a detailed comment (and, again, my apologies for the delay in replying due to my recent operation).
You give a very balanced view and that does you great credit. You are right that it is unrealistic for us to expect success at AR’s level. On the other hand, I think those who faithfully follow his business model should be able to achieve some success.
Because AR brought this system to the UK, rightly or wrongly, he is perceived as a mentor and students expect support from their mentor – especially when they’ve paid out good money for tuition.
David
Posted 21 Jan 2009 at 5:51 pm ¶Hi david
Posted 06 Mar 2009 at 5:57 pm ¶been a while since i posted on here and reading through the other posts it seems tha AR is getting some negative feedback… well i did part with a large chunk of cash and to be perfectly honest it was mostly a waste, haveing attended a 1 day training event we were sent home with all this posative attitude stuff and our gold and platinum licenses and to be fair the training was mostly repeating what we had all heard before, any way when the “products” arrived I went through them looking for the hook which took weeks and before i got to the end of them I was totally despondant most were not that good and if I had paid the sort of money that we were told we could charge for them I would have sent them back.
As for the support part well ask a question on the helpdesk …. then wait about 2 weeks for a short mostly uninterested answer giving bare detail the best thing to come out of it was the sets of copywriting dvds by Allen Forrest-Smith which were more help than all of ARs expensive course.
I have come across people trying to sell the products and liceses but wonder how well they are doing, so my best advise is hang on to your money and do your own thing even selling simple “HOW TO” books on ebay is better than competing with the overkill AR has created, some one said earlier on here that his customer care sucks, to true I have been reading Dan Kennedy stuff and he is the total opposite on customer care and retention, but I guess AR needs a supply of gullable fools to make his money I doubt he would be as wealthy if he didnt, well in conclusion is there anyone who would like a huge collection of dvds starting bid only £0.99…
regards
pete
ps any one else whos a victim maybe we should start our own blogsite!!!!
Hello Pete,
Thanks for your contribution, but I’m sorry to hear that your own experience of AR has been so negative. Thankfully, I’ve never committed myself to paying out for one of his higher ticket items, other than for a pure info product where no support was promised or expected on my part.
In fairness, that product was good value and I learned a lot from it. But it has to be said that AR was only selling it, it wasn’t one of his own.
In terms of value, I remember that was one of my qualms about the COD course. I stopped after Module 15, which I’m just looking at again: turn to the back – 92 pages; flick through and find that actual content is only written on the odd-numbered pages!
My particular copy of that module had both missing pages and duplicated pages – obviously some problem with the manufacture of it. So my initial reaction was to send it back and ask for a replacement. Only then did I discover that NOWHERE in the COD course is there any address or contact information if you need any type of customer service.
So I took the only course of action I could, and stopped my direct debit payment. Sure enough, that didn’t trouble AR one little bit! No response from him.
So, I now follow AR’s lead in this: when he now writes to me, I now ignore HIM.
David
Posted 22 Mar 2009 at 9:43 am ¶Hi, I’ve just come across this thread – very informative too. I didn’t attend Brighton but did attend Bournemouth in ’07. Stopped subscribing to COD after 15 modules and was very disillusioned at the lack of support and poor quality products. Anyway, for DVD/CD duplication check out http://www.kunaki.com. They are based in the States and offer an incredible price structure – $5.75 inc shipping to the UK, no set up costs and they’ll provide you with a bar code and supply Amazon and CDBaby! Not for everyone because its totally automated. For anyone looking to build a list, there are always lots of online ‘Giveaways’ which you can sign up to as a contributor. I’ve started doing this and have been able to start converting my ‘virtual’ list to a ‘physical’ one. So there is light at the end of the tunnel but this info – simple as it is – came from a bloke called Martin Saint John. I’m currently one of his ‘guinea pigs’ – testing out one of his ‘systems’ and I’ve finally taken action and seeing results after only 3 months of his course unlike what I consider to be wasted time with COD. Anyway, this can be done so don’t give up, there are good guys out there.
Posted 08 Jun 2009 at 10:53 am ¶Hello Martin,
Thanks for dropping by and I’m glad that you found us!
Seems that 15 modules of COD was enough for both of us! I wonder how many of AR’s subscribers actually go beyond that?
You’re not the first reader to extol the virtues of Kunaki. I really will check them out when I’m ready to re-enter the world of promoting physical products.
Must admit that I’ve not previously heard of Martin Saint John but you’ve obviously got a good opinion of him. Maybe he’s one to watch out for. I wish you well with his course.
Posted 15 Jul 2009 at 4:26 pm ¶If you’re ever in Utah for an Entrepreneur Bootcamp, I would love to attend. Would be good for me!!!
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